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Syd (00:00.561)
Hello and welcome to today's podcast.
This is actually our first review of the season and of our podcast. So that's exciting. It's going to be a mill of madness, which is a haunted attraction. They don't really like being called a haunted house, but a haunted attraction. And it's quite interesting. It's very theatrical and it's more of like a show or a performance instead of just your regular haunted attraction. It's very theatrical and very
to think of the word interactive. So yeah, and I have my friend here, David, who's on the other line, or other side. Oh, that sounds horrible, other side. Aren't we all? So yeah, I have David and he's also going to talk about it as well, because he's been through it and seen it. So we're just going to talk about, you know, a review, how we liked it, things about it.
David (00:43.182)
Hello?
David (00:46.542)
on the other side.
Syd (01:01.621)
So pretty much like the story is they're testing different things, nuclear things, and it's like an army base to start off with. And then all of a sudden you end up in a crazy doctor office and doing experiments and then you're like on a psychedelic trip. That's pretty much kind of what the story is, wouldn't you agree?
David (01:27.966)
Yeah, it's your typical B-rated, Day of the Dead kind of scenario.
Syd (01:33.157)
Yeah.
So it's very interesting. It's different. But it kind of in a way how they did that though smart because like you said then they can have like things that wouldn't necessarily go together. But they kind of go together because of the storyline. Which is good. So yeah, so that's pretty much what the story is. So when you first enter you like.
you're obviously meeting soldiers. And David actually would know more about that part than I would. Like I said, I've seen it, but he's, yeah, he's a part of it. So you interact with these soldiers who are pretty much, like the first one pretty much is telling you the rules and a little bit of the story and whatnot. And then you go from there to pretty much entering the base of this army.
Syd (02:34.937)
So yeah, if you wanted to talk about it, kind of say how you feel about at least the first half, the outside part.
David (02:42.132)
Well, I could probably talk about the whole thing too.
Syd (02:44.801)
Yeah, well I mean we're good at it, but if you want to just break it down, we'll do that first. If you wanted to start and then I'll just add because, like I said, you're more into that, the outside, than I am.
David (02:56.482)
Right. So basically how it starts out and no spoilers or anything like that, but you go, you're in a gated area and as you go through the maze or whatnot you end up meeting a soldier. And at that point he's seeing if your reinforcements, stuff like that.
and he gets a video call from his commander. They interact with each other. It's a great scene. It's one of my favorites. And then after that, you're led through the area because they're trying to get you to evacuate the area. So you're having to follow the soldier and whatnot to be evacuated.
Syd (03:54.458)
Yeah.
David (03:58.386)
And then after that, you go into like a swamp type area and get attacked by a bloated zombie, which is interesting to say the least. You know. Yes, very, very terrifying.
Syd (04:16.341)
Yeah, and very terrifying.
Syd (04:20.525)
And like I said before, it's more of a theatrical thing, so it's actually like little shows. It's not just your regular haunt where you're pushed through, or you're, you know, you're like going through. You can actually take your time and really look at the sets and the actors and like, you could even interact with them if you wanted to because it is an interactive haunt.
David (04:32.427)
And then.
David (04:40.87)
It can be thought of as being part of the show.
Syd (04:48.535)
Yeah.
David (04:48.738)
You're not just sitting there watching something, you're part of it. So the cast will interact with you and you're mainly the main character going through this whole thing.
Syd (05:07.849)
Yeah. And I mean, like they have they have cool lighting effects and sound effects and audio and all that. Which, again, kind of makes it a little bit different than your average haunt.
Because like I said, there's kind of little performances and with the performances there's obviously gonna be sound and audio as well as like visual effects and Then you have, you know, the monsters playing along with it and there's like, you know, there has to be timing and all that with that being said. So again, that makes it completely different because most haunts don't necessarily do that. There are some that have storylines and stuff, but they're not really
like really telling the story or like, like you're not being a part of it like you were saying.
David (05:55.498)
Yeah, this haunt, I say, goes back to the roots. Even like when you did a haunt in your garage or whatnot, you'd always have a theme to it where there'd be different sections and all your volunteers would do certain things to kind of bring out like a graveyard or a vampire or a demon section and stuff like that. And...
You know, you're there to like enjoy, yeah, you want to get scared and whatnot like everyone does. But you know, it's more like they work hard on doing their scared, doing their performance. And they're not just going to be there to kind of scream in your face or get you to run or whatnot, because they want you to enjoy the show as much as they enjoy giving the show.
Syd (06:50.761)
Yeah, yeah, and that's like the cool part is that it's not your average haunt where they're just screaming at you or
You know, like, boo scares or like, startle scares and all that. Like, you're actually getting a story told. So if you're more into that kind of haunted attraction, like, this is totally for you. But you also might not be used to this kind of haunted attraction because, again, in Arizona, we don't really have anything like that. I'd say the closest thing we had to anything like that was Jack and Jill, which is no longer here. But it's different. And like, all of our other haunts here are not like that. And our big ones here are definitely not like that.
that because they're just pushing you through they don't care necessarily if you see everything as like I said this haunt really wants you to see everything and like technically it's an experience it's not just a haunt because I mean they use sense to they use fog sense and so they're trying to like hit all your sensory is vision hearing you know smell which is different
But yeah, the outside area I would say is, it's cool. And I mean, there's even like a, like there's some effects out there. And there's even, like I said, there's a show and I don't wanna like David said, give too much away, but it is, they have water involved. Which again in Arizona is very, very unique because we live in the desert and there isn't a whole lot of like water themes or water. So that, that alone also makes this haunt stand out.
It's really cool. And like I said, the characters alone, there's more of a character development in these characters because, like I said, they're telling a story. So it's not just a monster with a mask. Like, they have some backstory or they have kind of an idea of who they are. It's not just, like I said, like the regular, are scared and you leave kind of a thing. It's pretty interesting.
Syd (08:47.949)
So yeah, that's the outside pretty much in a nutshell. It's very cool. I mean, even their queue line is gonna be interesting. They haven't done it yet, but they're talking about, you know, they're gonna have screens and stuff. So as you're sitting in line, you even get like to see little clip-its and stuff of their movies, which that's another thing. It's a movie company that's pretty much putting this on. It's a studio.
David (09:11.634)
It's Sun Studios of Arizona. They've done a lot of B-rated horror films or whatnot that you can find on all your streaming apps, Netflix, Hulu, all of them. And their movies are pretty good. I've checked out a few.
Syd (09:29.001)
Yeah, I think I saw one. I want to see some more of them. And it was interesting.
And again, I think it was an older one, so you know, it was a little like outdated, but it wasn't bad. Like, it wasn't horrible, I didn't mind it. So yeah, I want to definitely watch some more, but like, they're gonna advertise, obviously, their films while you're waiting in line, which is a smart idea. And it gives you something to do in the queue line instead of just standing there. Which, again, there's some haunts where, well, that's pretty much what you do, is you stand in line.
I mean, the only downside is like we were talking about, we wish that they had like an icon character outside. Just for like photo opportunities, and again that's like great for advertising, but like just someone to interact. I mean, because you can still have your TV screens and at least have at least one icon, you know, out there kind of just being a monster, taking photos with people and, you know, kind of like bringing that energy to the line.
David (10:23.947)
Yeah, but I can understand lighting.
David (10:28.774)
I can understand why they don't. Knowing the hunt industry by going and seeing all the hunts that I have here in Arizona, not all of them are as great as they are back east, except for the slaughterhouse, which is probably the best hunt that we do have here. But it's definitely one of those things where if they were able to get more...
Syd (10:42.074)
Yeah.
Syd (10:48.042)
Oh, for sure.
David (10:56.622)
actors or whatnot and they're looking for passion for professional actors, you know, even if you're just into theater or Anything like that or if you are a haunter or whatnot, you know, they're still looking so if you still Want to check things out maybe work it for this, you know rest this month go right ahead and Contact them. They might you know, how are you on?
Syd (11:19.937)
Yeah, that's true. Yeah, they're still looking for the crew as well as the cast. So if that's something you're interested in, and even if you've never done it before, that's okay because they are very open and they're willing to work with you. You're not just thrown in the dark like, oh, you know, they...
they do help you out a little bit, you know, giving you kind of a background, like I said, of who you are, what you're doing. But yeah, you don't necessarily have to be a professional actor or a haunter to, you know, be a part of it. You can be, you know, somebody who's never done it before but is interested. And a lot of times you have people, oh yeah, oh yeah, I mean, for sure. Like I said, like they're very open to helping.
David (11:57.377)
They do have professional actors and whatnot that will help coach you too, so it's a great learning experience.
Syd (12:06.305)
And I mean, like, I would say this is a really good haunt to get your feet, you know, get your feet wet in the industry because it is brand new. So they're learning and you're going to be learning along with them.
But I mean, it's a good one to get started with, I would say, for sure. So if that's something you're interested in, and don't let your fears overtake you, because I mean, I was afraid of haunts too. But that's the cool thing about working for them is you get to learn the ins and outs of how they work in the industry. So you're not as afraid. I mean, you're still going to get startled by things, obviously, but you're not going to be totally afraid and you're going to understand kind of like how movies are, the background of how movie wants to.
were made and stuff. It kind of, when you learn that stuff you have a different appreciation, but then also you're not as afraid because you know it's just a person and makeup, acting. But I would say yeah, for sure, if you go to millofmadness.com and you can apply, they still need actors and stuff. And who knows, if we have enough maybe you'll be in the midway. Like I said, that'd be really cool.
David (13:00.655)
Okay. Thank you.
David (13:13.666)
And keep in mind that it is also a movie production company, so they'll keep a hold of your information if they think it'll make a good part in any of their future features.
Syd (13:26.177)
Yeah, it's a good way to make connections and meet. I mean, and you meet cool people, too. Like we've met other hunters or makeup artists and stuff. So it's a good way to meet new people, you know, maybe learn some new crafts. Because, like, if you know, if you meet a makeup artist or every one to learn, you could always ask them. So it's a it is a good way to, like I said, get your feet wet kind of.
you're getting introduced into that industry as well as made possibly movies, which that is really cool. Again, that's what makes it unique too, is the fact that this is a movie production studio that's putting it on. It's not just, you know, some guy who's like, yeah, I'm going to open up a haunt or, you know, those businesses that have the haunts, it's different. Which is cool, because like they said, they have a vision and they're trying to bring that vision to life.
which again I think is really awesome. But yeah, that's like pretty much the outside is... I mean, I like the sounds too. The sounds are very... and I mean they've added some new ones, but like now when you go in there it's not just like, you know, quiet. But it kind of brings that eeriness, that startlingness. So I'm glad that they added the sound effects. They're totally, totally cool.
David (14:43.204)
Yeah, their audio engineer is constantly tweaking and improving every night.
Syd (14:48.129)
Yeah, and that's what any good haunted house does really to be honest with you. A lot of it's like trial and error of the season. So they're going to be testing things out and being like, Oh, that works. That doesn't work. So a good haunt is changing throughout the season most of the time, because like, like you said, David, they're, they're twerking different things or it's like, Oh, you know, that doesn't work. Let's try this or let's add this sound.
And they're totally doing that, because I mean even when we don't have, like when they don't have customers and stuff, they're working on it. So I mean it's like, yeah, and that's awesome. The other thing is that we didn't hit it's also family owned, which also makes it different because it's not a corporation.
David (15:32.477)
Exactly, and it's one of those things that because it's a family-owned thing and whatnot, they're really, you know, they have a vision, don't get me wrong, but they love feedback from the customers and from their employees.
Syd (15:46.762)
Mm-hmm.
David (15:51.338)
You know, they don't mind criticism.
Syd (15:56.129)
Yeah, and that's cool too, because again, they're willing to.
Listen to their cast and crew and like improve or try different things because again, this is their first year there's a lot of growing pains in a haunts first year and A lot of it too is just like getting out there because you're brand new But they're gonna have a lot of growing pains and they're gonna learn and actually that's awesome that they're open To that because again a lot of haunts here aren't they're not open to what anyone else has to say or think This one totally is like they want to know from their actors because again
haunt than your actors because they're the ones that are actually in the scenes doing the scares and stuff so they're gonna know what works and what doesn't work so I mean that's brilliant the fact that they asked like hey what can we do better what can we change and I think that's really cool I like that
David (16:50.095)
Yes.
Syd (16:54.021)
But it is different. So it's, again, I like that stuff, the fact that they're doing things in a completely different way. Because a lot of hunts here don't care. Like, they don't care. But that's another thing too. If you do go through, for sure, at the end, let them know things that you've noticed or things like that, let them know.
David (17:17.444)
Yeah, that's the one thing I love about this particular haunt too is it's a lot like how with Slaughterhouse is, you know, where they don't try to just scare you and get you through as fast as possible because they understand that the cost-
Syd (17:32.964)
Yeah.
David (17:36.766)
of the ticket and everything like that. So they want you to enjoy yourself and enjoy what they are doing because they put a lot of work into these sets.
Syd (17:45.342)
Oh yeah, and a lot of money.
So.
David (17:48.818)
I've been to haunts that just push you through and you can't really enjoy the sets or the scene or even the scare actors or anything like that because they're just trying to get you as many people as soon as quickly as possible and sometimes the prices they ask for isn't worth a five minute show.
Syd (17:58.542)
Yeah.
Syd (18:02.885)
Yeah.
Syd (18:08.181)
No, it's not. Like I was telling you the other night, the fact that I can go to a concert for $75, and you know, concerts are longer than 15 minutes. I mean, they should be.
So it's like you're paying, yeah, you're paying for that, you know, that time, but as well as the production. And I mean, concerts, like even if you're thinking of like Taylor Swift or even someone smaller than that, they have a whole production. So it's like you're paying for that as well as the artist and then all the things that come along with it. But these haunts that are like the price of a concert ticket and they're not a concert. Like, it's like, it's not, it's not worth that. Like you said, it's not worth the price.
David (18:21.438)
and their production is a lot better.
Syd (18:51.027)
that they're charging. And if people continue paying those prices, they're gonna keep them at that price. It's like, you know, it's like, when you're feeding a bad habit kind of a thing, it's the same thing. As long as people are supporting these haunts and going to them and paying the ridiculous prices, they're gonna keep their prices or they're even gonna go up in price. So it's, to me, it's ridiculous. That's just crazy.
And this haunt is like fairly reasonable, like the price is reasonable. It really is. It's not bad. It's like in the middle. It's not too much and it's not like, oh, it's, you know, like when you see haunts that are really cheap and you're like, oh, I don't know if I want to go to that cause why are the tickets only, you know, 20 bucks, which again, you shouldn't base a haunt on the ticket price.
David (19:37.94)
And they do it for charity. That's another thing about this haunt is this Sun Studios is doing this haunt for charity.
Syd (19:51.953)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
David (19:55.113)
And that to me is the heart of a hunt, is giving back to the community that supports them.
Syd (20:01.089)
Yeah, because without your community, you don't really have a haunt. Like, you need people to go through to, for it to be successful. And the people who go through your haunt are what? Through the community. Yeah. So it's, it's funny. It's very interesting, but yeah, we'll go into, cause there's two parts. So there's like the outside part and then there's the inside part. And I mean, I actually like how they do the transition because
David (20:11.842)
the community.
Syd (20:28.649)
Now you're going from, you know, being in a facility, an army base and all that, to entering now this crazy scientist's office, which I think is kind of, I think that is a good transition. And I mean, the actor in there is really good, you know, good makeup, really scary, big in size. I mean, just, ooh, terrifying, like, intimidating.
David (20:53.118)
And he doesn't only just interact with the other hunter there that, you know, is part of the scene. He'll actually talk with the group. Like, he was... I went in there with the group and he was asking all of us like, Oh, what's your foot size? I need a size 7. Do you have a size 7?
Syd (20:58.36)
Yeah.
Syd (21:14.737)
That's cool. That's cool. And like sometimes there's a victim in there, you know, or sometimes there isn't. But there's usually somebody in there with them, but I mean it's just, it's interesting because again it's more interactive. So I mean I like the transition. I think it's cool and the set in there is pretty cool too. I mean there's like a body and obviously parts and...
you know, equipment for the crazy scientist. It's really cool. And the costume's pretty interesting, too.
David (21:48.414)
Yeah.
Syd (21:49.605)
But that, I mean, that is one of, I like that part. That part's really cool. I also like the water show too. That's also, and again, that's different. So it's, it stands out. Like it's something you remember as like, I would say the scientist is too. That's something that stands out and something that you remember because it's just, it's, it's like something that you see in a haunt, but it's, and it's different. It's pretty cool.
David (22:16.169)
And the fact that those are just the tip of the iceberg on the whole show itself
Syd (22:21.153)
Yeah, yeah, I mean, and we haven't even talked about the ending. And that, like, they did that smart because the ending is like the finale. And it builds up to that.
Which again is a very smart idea and some haunts don't always do that either But they do they build up to the last scene and it's actually a scene And like it will get to that but yeah it's really cool And then from there you then you start actually entering like I would say the scare part or the Attraction part But it's still again keep in mind still interactive it's still scenes You're still interacting with You know The actors and such
hallway and I love the lighting in the hallway I'm gonna be honest it's the hallway is one of my favorite areas not just because I've been in there but like I like the feeling of it because you go into it and the walls you know have blood splatter and stuff like that and they have things hanging from the ceiling but the lighting how the lighting is it makes it earier and then you add fog on top of that and then the sound effects in the actors it's just
that stands out. It's interesting. And the actors are interesting for sure. It's pretty... And like I said, I don't want to give it all away, but it's pretty... That one, I mean, that's the start pretty much after the Doctor. That's the start of the attraction. And it kind of sets the tone for the rest of it. It's pretty creepy.
David (23:51.837)
Yeah, and going through those, the maze and whatnot, everything is so unassuming and the timing of the actors and whatnot to...
either jump out and get you or grab your attention and communicate with you or whatnot. It's just so perfectly well done to where you can be scared, surprised, laughing with them, having a great time. The transitions between everything is just wonderfully done.
Syd (24:22.721)
Yeah, and it's all about entertainment. In the long run, that's really, it's like, yes, you're there to get scared, but really, if you really think about it, it's about being entertained, and they do a good job of that. And like you said, it's kind of unexpected, you don't know what you're walking into, because, like I said, since this Haunt's backstory is different.
You know, you travel through these different areas and you're kind of like, how does that even go together? But then when you actually really think about the story, you're like, okay, I see how that can go together. And I think that's cool too. Like you said, surprising. Like you're like, oh, you know, as you leave that hallway, then you're entering like a butcher area and you're like, okay. And I mean, the butcher is really good too. I like, I like that.
And, like, we don't wanna give a lot away, but we'll talk just a little bit so you kind of... Again, we want you to go, if it's good, or if it's a bad attraction, you know, obviously we want to steer you away from that. But this one's not bad. Not at all. Heh. But yeah, it's cool. But yeah, then you have the butcher and you end up in a psychedelic, like I said, kind of a setting.
And they have different effects that, you know, some haunts do have and then they also have things that some haunts don't have. Like they obviously have startle scares like air and stuff. And they have, like David said, they have actors that interact with you. Like there's a doll in one part and you play dolls with her. I mean, like again, how many haunts do that? Not any that I'm aware of, at least here in Arizona.
David (25:51.758)
Yeah, to me, like this hunt is just perfect because I love going to hunts, you know, I'm all about Halloween. It's my favorite, you know, holiday by far. And you go through all these other hunts and whatnot. And you know, you're trying to enjoy the sceneries and people are just popping out at you trying to scare you through and stuff like that. And yeah, I get that. But you know.
Syd (26:01.957)
Yeah.
Syd (26:14.415)
Yeah.
David (26:15.574)
They put a lot of work into these things. You want to enjoy everything. And.
Syd (26:18.497)
Yeah, well, yeah, that doesn't make sense either, does it David? Like, all the time and effort and like money and everything that they put into it and then you only like, you miss most of it and most attractions, like you said, they push you through. Like...
David (26:32.85)
Yeah, but this one doesn't push you through.
Syd (26:34.889)
Yeah, it's like, it doesn't make sense to me. Like, you're spending thousands of dollars, and like you said, hundreds and thousands of hours detailing and decorating. I mean, not all haunts detail, obviously. But, they do all this crazy stuff for you to see it, and then if they just push you through, like, you miss, like, what? Probably 90% of the haunt, because, you know, you're just being pushed through.
David (27:00.901)
Yeah, exactly. And it's also just one of those things too where, you know, because it's a production, an immersive show, you know, it's not your standard haunt, not everyone is going to be a monster in this haunt.
Stuff like that which makes it so much more refreshing just do like, you know You can see an actual victim that just you know, no face paint nothing, you know, and they're either, you know chain to a wall because they're about ready to get hit by the butcher or You know, they're getting electrocuted or stuff like that, you know They're tortured. Yeah, you know, you don't need to have face makeup or
Syd (27:15.972)
Yeah.
Syd (27:19.873)
Yeah, they have victims.
Syd (27:37.537)
Yeah, getting tortured.
David (27:44.938)
Mask or anything like that to make something scary just having someone You know just in the regular clothes in there acting out a scene. That's all you really need I mean that goes back to like, you know, the original Dracula the original Mommy and you know all those great movies were not all that was, you know, it's such a thing You don't need all the blood gore and everything
Syd (27:48.769)
or good.
Syd (28:00.842)
Mm-hmm.
Syd (28:10.645)
Yeah, yeah, and like we've talked about, or you know, me and you've talked about, and I've probably said...
to other people is like, you can have amazing costumes and makeup and you can suck as an actor. Like, that's not what sells it, really, it is the acting. So even if you didn't have makeup, like, that's when you know an actor is good, is they don't even need makeup or a costume to scare you or to entertain you. Like, those are just things to add to the haunt or to that character. It's not the character.
They're important in a way, but like you don't need necessarily to have that. If you're a good actor, you don't need it. Like, hello.
David (28:54.862)
All right.
Syd (28:55.985)
Mm-hmm, but I mean that's to me what is what sells it kind of like we talked about these sets that are extremely Amazing and stuff and you again you can have a hunt that has amazing sets and all these animatronics and stuff But if you don't have actors or good actors That's really the actors are the heart of the haunt Really they really are like and that's why you should treat them well, too
because they are your haunt, like your actors are everything.
David (29:27.806)
Yeah, it's like I've gone through some haunted houses that claim to world famous and you know have all these amazing sets and then the acting just doesn't do it for you and then
Syd (29:38.881)
Yeah, or it breaks that, like, even the believability. So even if the sets are clear, like, yeah, whatever.
David (29:47.09)
Yeah, but I've also been through, you know, those little like corn mazes or just the black tarp and stuff like that. And the actors with those, you know, the way that they interact and whatnot, just really, you know, bring it home. And I've had more fun with haunts like that than some of the more expensive haunts around Arizona.
Syd (29:55.075)
Mm-hmm.
Syd (30:10.785)
Yeah, like I said, you shouldn't base what you go on price. Do your research, obviously, like, you know, look up. I mean, especially if you don't have a lot of money and you can only do a couple of hunts like do your research, look up different sites that are credible or, you know, word of mouth people, you know, and like listen to what they say, obviously, before especially some of these hunts that are really expensive before buying a ticket. There there are credible things out there like haunt world.
or even USA haunt search or different things like that. There are credible places that you can get good reviews. I mean, you can look at Google and stuff too, cause there are people that do actually put real reviews out. But yeah, it's like, do your research obviously.
David (30:58.014)
Yeah, and it's on those things too, or I personally, you know, read all those reviews, and I still go even if like a haunt has nothing but bad reviews because I'm like, I want to go see how bad it is. And you know, and it's like I've gone like, those reviews were wrong. I mean, what was that person talking about?
Syd (31:11.553)
Yeah, yeah, and people do that too, they do.
Syd (31:18.445)
Yeah, sometimes. Yeah. And again, everyone's going to have their point of view and what scares some people isn't going to scare everybody. Like if you're terrified of spiders and there's a huge spider, you're going to be like, oh my God. But, you know, if I'm not afraid of spiders, I'll just be like, oh, that's cute. Like everybody's opinion is different and people are afraid of different things and people react to fear differently as well. So.
It's just it's kind of like to each their own like some people may hate Mill of Madness because it's more theatrical And they just like the average you know they just want the jump scares, so it might not be everybody's cup of tea, but You never know
David (32:00.314)
That's for sure.
Syd (32:02.617)
But it's totally cool. I mean, like the sets, they do really, like there's even like a black light kind of area and you can even see that, you know, whoever painted that put effort into the, you know, the sets and again, it's a family that does it.
So it's like they're working together to create this, which I love family businesses because again, I ha you know, having one, but and they're more rare, I think, than they used to be. But it's pretty cool to the fact that they're even family, kind of like how symptom of horror is to like it's not a corporation.
David (32:36.43)
It's one of those things too where I'm a proud Arizonian and whatnot. I like going to all haunts, but if there's a haunt that's an Arizona based haunt, I'll go to them before I go to some other haunt that doesn't have any bases in Arizona and they're just here or have the same kind in other states or what have you.
Syd (33:03.033)
Like the chains. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. And like there are hauds too that never change.
David (33:07.158)
Like, I don't...
David (33:10.942)
Yeah. And it's like, you know, I don't mind chain haunts or the corporate haunts or anything like that. They're fine and whatnot. But the, you know, haunts that are, you know, part of your community, you know, whatnot, you know, they're Arizona based or Colorado based or what have you, you know, they're doing it for the community, not just for profit, like some haunts that, you know, maybe based in
New Orleans, but they have a hunt in California.
Syd (33:44.097)
Yeah, and it's just money. Yeah. And that- you can tell that too when you walk through a haunt. You can really like, tell if it's just there for profit or if it's there out of love. Like there- there are differences. You can feel it. Or you can see it.
Syd (34:02.625)
And that's why I would say like this one, you, they're trying. I mean, it's their first year, but you can see that they're really putting all into it. And I think that will pay back in the, you know, in the future. I think that will because the fact that they're trying and they're putting their heart into it already makes them different than some of the other attractions. Which is, which is really cool.
David (34:28.041)
Yes.
Syd (34:29.869)
But I mean, yeah, some of the, I mean, they have like, like I said, they have some cool effects. They actually use fog. A lot of haunts here in Arizona don't always use, you know, fog. They actually do and they use it well. Um, sometimes it gets a little too foggy in some areas, but again, that's just growing pains, but it's still cool. And it adds that atmosphere. Like I heard other people going through and they kept saying. Atlas fear. Like you feel.
Like, you're actually in the Atlusphere. I kept hearing that. I heard it like probably four or five times. So it's like, obviously that's something if people are, you know, keep saying, no, like the Atlusphere, like you actually feel you're there. And then the actors are just like the cherry on the cake. Then they're there helping you believe that you're actually in the story. Which again, is different. And I like it. Yeah.
David (35:22.73)
That's part of the invisibility.
Syd (35:25.249)
And I mean, like, they have cool things, like they had a bubble machine, and they have, like, like I said, they have a lot of lighting effects, which a lot of haunts don't have. And they also, like I said, they have sound, they even have, they're trying to cue everything together. So, and I mean, like they said, they're, they're still new, they're still working on things, but they're trying to cue it, so it's like, when you're going through, you're listening and seeing and hearing all these things that are supposed to go on together. Which is, again, and that's hard.
easy thing to do. So the fact that they're even trying to do that and not just be like, oh, we're just a scary haunt, we have some lights and stuff. They're trying to take it that step forward into you're actually there and there's a whole entire scene. Like we were talking about, it's not just, it's an experience, it's an attraction. They don't like saying haunt because it is more than that.
David (36:20.64)
Yes.
Syd (36:22.521)
But it's really cool. And like I said, they have some of your average haunts stuff, like air cannons and things like that. But they also have things that are different. Yeah. And I mean, they have some really cool animatronics and they actually work. You go to some haunts, they have some awesome animatronics, but they don't do anything. But these guys actually work. And like I said, I don't wanna give it all away, but like they do have some pretty incredible.
David (36:29.686)
Your animatronics and whatnot.
Syd (36:50.313)
animatronics like I said you can tell they spent money in this attraction in the ending the ending is that's like again that's kind of it builds to that ending but the ending is really kind of what shows you the interactive and how it's more of a performance it's a really cool like both parts of the hawn are awesome I would say
David (36:55.894)
Yeah, and it's
David (37:13.772)
Yeah.
Syd (37:20.329)
And they're different, because again, outside is different than inside for lots of different reasons because of, you know, when you're like open air compared to being inside, you know, a building, there is differences. But they're both really good. I mean, and I do love the ending. The ending is interesting and it's again, it's interactive and there's sound and visual effects that are a part of it.
And it's quite, I don't know how long the ending exactly is, but it is, it's, you're in there for a while. Again, you're not just like, oh that's cool and you're leaving. Like, there's a whole entire scene going on at the end.
David (38:01.262)
I mean, you're basically going through this haunt, and you'll be there in over 20 minutes. Unlike some haunts, you can be out in five or 10. This one, you can take maybe a good half hour, depending if you're a runner or if you're a slow walker and you're strolling, enjoying the set, and the whole theme of the thing. But that's what I like about it is.
Syd (38:14.231)
Yeah.
David (38:31.228)
You can actually be in this hunt for like a full half hour just enjoying everything. And they're fine with that.
Syd (38:33.973)
Yeah. But again, that's kind of up to you too as the consumer, because if you're running through, or if you're that scared that you're just like, whew, because there has been groups like that, they just run out. That's not necessarily the haunts fault. It's like, again, it's kind of up to the customer, you know, if you want to actually like look, or if you're going to try to just be fast. And like, if you want to interact with the characters.
David (39:00.362)
Yeah, they promise a long lasting show and they deliver on that.
Syd (39:05.109)
Yeah. But again, it is up to you. If you run through it, or you don't even want to take the time to see the shows, then that's- it's not really their fault. But yeah, they're- and they're still working on timing. Like I said, there are things they could definitely improve on, and they are trying to work on it. Like the- you're gonna hear a lot, the door of hallways is like, not the best part of the attraction. I know what they're trying to do.
It just hasn't gotten there yet. But they are working on it.
David (39:37.047)
Yeah. And I've definitely read the reviews for this place, and a lot of them are good. I mean, there are some bad reviews and whatnot, but like I said, it's all opinion-based. Some people maybe are looking for a monster around every corner and not just the regular, you know, face person getting electrocuted. But yeah, you know, it's just like, give me a break. I mean...
Syd (39:46.138)
Yeah.
Syd (39:55.513)
Yeah, I saw that one, yeah.
David (40:00.338)
Maybe it's supposed to be a person getting electrocuted, not a zombie or monster or anything like that, you know?
Syd (40:05.497)
Well yeah, that doesn't make sense. But yeah, I mean, it's all about the storyline and if they didn't take the time to... And I know what review you're talking about. If they don't take the time to actually like, be immersed in it and like we said, like, you know, slow down. That could be partly their fault too. If you, you know.
David (40:08.399)
You know it doesn't.
David (40:26.13)
Yeah, and I will definitely admit, I am such a nerd. When I go to a haunt, any haunt, doesn't matter what state or how many I go through, I always look for the storyline. Like, okay, so what are they trying to tell me when I go through this haunt? Or is it just gonna be a bunch of black tarp and jump scares because that's all they're focused on are the, you know, trying to start the heck out of you.
Syd (40:43.834)
Yeah.
Syd (40:54.862)
Yeah.
David (40:56.138)
But the ones that you actually do the scenery and whatnot, when you go from like, uh, Insane Asylum to, uh, Carnivals or, you know, the Hall of Slaughter or something like that, they're trying to tell you the story as you're walking through. And it's like trying to figure out, okay, well I like this, but I'm trying to figure out the story here too, like, you know, because that's what sells it for me.
Syd (41:10.861)
Mm-hmm.
Syd (41:14.81)
Yeah.
Syd (41:20.589)
Yeah. Yeah, is the believability, the story. And some haunts don't have that, like, or they do, and it doesn't, it doesn't work. Yeah, like it doesn't, I've been to some and like you read the backstory and you're like, then you go through and you don't even see like the characters or it's, it just doesn't make sense. And that I don't like that to me, that's false advertising. It's like, if you're going to have a fairy themed haunt.
David (41:30.935)
Hands laid.
Syd (41:50.389)
and you go in it and you don't even see a fairy. Like, yeah, like what? That doesn't even, I hate when they do that. Like, no, don't do that. And if you're gonna have iconic characters, make sure you have those characters in your haunt. I mean, come on. If I wanna go see the crazy clown and I go there and there's no crazy clown, you're kind of like, that's disappointing. Then you're just like, and you remember that, you're like, hey, remember that one year when we went to Blink?
David (41:53.375)
and it's all zombies.
Syd (42:19.293)
and they didn't have blah and you're like yeah that was that's not what you want to put out as a good haunt you want people to be like to have good memories and be like hey you remember when you know we went to see the clown and we saw the clown and he was he was even better than what we thought he was gonna be you know like that's what you want to be remembered as not like the disappointment of Not telling your story or not having scenes that make sense and I mean if that's the haunt that
you do and you like it and it works then okay. And some people, like I said, some people prefer that more than story. But I would say yeah, personally story-driven haunts are a lot easier to follow and they make it more believable.
David (43:02.977)
Which makes the scare so much better Yeah, and that's the thing about That's the thing about this Han or whatnot because it's their first year whatnot, and they may not have any icons yet
Syd (43:05.857)
Yeah, and I would say it's easier for your actors. When you have a story.
David (43:18.346)
Well that's because you know it's up to the actors to create the icons for them and there are like almost a lot of the actors are all the actors that they have you know all their characters could be very iconic because everything just does a great job when they say professional actors they do mean it these guys are pretty good
Syd (43:23.577)
Yeah.
Syd (43:32.88)
Yeah.
Syd (43:40.929)
Yeah, I mean, and like I said, it's their first year. They're growing. They're gonna learn. And like, I'm hoping that any criticism they do get, you know, they listen to it, but don't take it to heart. But like, be open, and they are, obviously. They are open to, you know, change. So if you do go through and you notice something that could have improvement, then tell them. But for sure, you know, give them a review. If you do go through, make sure you give them a review on Google and stuff, because that's...
that does help them and since it is their first year, they need all the help they can get.
David (44:14.388)
And then you do those reviews, it's like, man, this place was great, but you know, during this one scene, I wish that he did this, blah, blah. Don't listen to ya.
Syd (44:23.233)
Yeah, because even that negative review that they just recently had, they were, they took that into consideration.
David (44:32.054)
Yeah.
Syd (44:33.049)
So it's like, yeah, but don't for sure take it to heart because if you're trying to tell a story and what they're suggesting has nothing to do with it, then just like, okay.
David (44:43.691)
Yeah.
Syd (44:45.137)
because not everybody's gonna get it. But yeah, I would say as a whole, the attraction is, I would say a musty.
David (44:54.282)
Yeah, it's a very refreshing haunted attraction that I've seen in Arizona in a long time. The only two competitors that this place comes close to is the slaughterhouse and... Let's see, what's that other one that we like going to? Stinctum of Horror, there we go, that's it.
Syd (45:19.143)
I mean, these three haunts are in a league of their own, I would say.
David (45:23.09)
Yes, I mean those to me are the three best hunts here in Arizona.
Syd (45:27.393)
Yeah, for sure. And they're all different, which again, that's like the cool part. Is you can love all three of them because all three of them are completely different. Because Sanctum, you know, you have two separate haunts. And again, that's also family owned. And it's just different because Sanctum of Horror has- and they have a storyline too. And their transition and their lighting and all that is awesome. And then you have like the slaughterhouse, which is actually a real slaughterhouse that is haunted.
That right there makes it different. And it's a huge location, and he does things differently than Sanctum would do in Mill of Madness. And then you have Mill of Madness that, like we said, it's not just a haunt, it's an attraction. It's a interactive show. So it's like, they're all three are great. And they're great for different reasons. But like, yeah, I agree with David. Like, in my opinion, those are probably gonna be the three top ones of
this year.
David (46:27.686)
Yeah, and as we do this broadcast together, Sid and I, we will definitely be going to all the hunts that we can here in Arizona and give them all a fair review.
Syd (46:38.669)
Yeah, yeah. Because I mean, even if we have ties or connections, we always try to put ourselves as the consumer or the customer's perspective and really look at all of the parts, like how we were talking about lighting, sound, makeup, acting. We take all of those into consideration and judge it fairly.
David (47:01.29)
and we'll even talk to people that we're not really close with or anything like that and get their perspective on the Han as well.
Syd (47:10.165)
Yeah. Oh yeah, we get tons of like, what would you say, people that tell us about their experiences and stuff. And I always kind of have that in the back of my head when going through something. Again, I don't like, you know, take it for heart because sometimes people are totally wrong. But, and again, it depends on the people. Like I have sources that I do, we like see things the same. Like that's one reason I like David is because we kind of see things the same. But again,
We see things differently too, but like, there is a commonality. And like if David said, hey, that attraction sucks, I'm going to take his word for it. I'm not going to be like, okay, I don't believe him. I might say, but why? And then he'll be like, oh, this and this and this, but like, he would be a credible source. I'd say, so we do know people in the industry that we would consider, you know, they're credible. They know what they're talking about.
David (48:04.812)
Yes, and I always look at things in a perspective of a customer or whatnot, what the average customer would look for and stuff like that. Due to the fact that I know a lot of people who love going to haunts and they'll get something like, oh, have you gone to this haunt yet? It's so cool. Blah, blah, blah.
Syd (48:25.134)
Mm-hmm.
And then that's something we hear too, and then we'll like look for that in that attraction and be like, yeah, that really was cool. Or, oh, that was that was okay. It's like, it depends. Like I said, everybody's perspective is different. Everybody sees everything is different.
And that's why I like getting more than one person to review with me because they're good to see things differently than I did. Or I might miss something. I might be looking over here and David's looking over there. Cause like when we went to Sanctum last year, I didn't get to see the gun in the second haunt which is, um, I can't think of it. I know, uh, what is the name? The Breach. And I didn't get to see the gun go off. I heard it but I didn't get to see it but he did. And he was like, that was awesome!
David (49:03.309)
Yes.
Syd (49:11.495)
I'm so excited to see that.
David (49:13.542)
Yeah, but you know that's like that that's the symptom of horror and whatnot and you know, I will definitely let you guys know when I see certain Props or whatnot that The company just nailed with like that gun was nothing but an air cannon, but they made it go off like a machine gun
Syd (49:35.309)
Yeah. I love homemade, like, when they do homemade stuff like that instead of just buying what everybody else buys, because then you like see the same animatronic at like two of the haunts and it takes that specialness away. So I love too when they do a lot of like DIY. And I would say for sure, Mill of Madness, they have a lot of things like they made in house. Which is really cool.
David (50:00.35)
Yeah, it's definitely. Yes. I mean.
Syd (50:04.089)
Cause I mean like they go, like you kinda said, they go back to some of the practical old school effects. And they, and it still works, like, even in the century, it still works. Like when you have a trash bag with milk cartons in it to make it look like a body, and it looks like a body, and you didn't have to pay, you know, like some of the ridiculous prices for fake bodies, and they just like, made it out of milk cartons in a trash bag. It still works.
David (50:30.538)
Yeah. And I was able to talk to some of the crew that were behind making Mill of Madness happen. And like we said, it's a family-owned business, whatnot, Sun Studios. And they were telling me how they used to do a hunt many years ago in barns. You know? And it's like, they went from a barn, you know, doing what they did, like...
Syd (50:42.393)
Yeah.
Syd (50:51.461)
Wow.
David (50:57.518)
years ago before they ever started their Sun Studio business and what they're doing now. So it's like you're still getting a lot of that old school home fuel haunts but on top of like a professional production.
Syd (51:00.866)
Yeah.
Syd (51:07.394)
Yeah.
Syd (51:11.053)
Yeah, it's like, it's kind of like a cross between both. Which, again, I think that's cool, and that's kind of what makes it different too, is the fact that it's like, they have practical, you know, old school kind of effects, and then they have like this technology tech side, and then like, you know, they have like some animatronics and really crazy things, and they like, mesh them both together like perfectly, like, you don't mind that when you're walking through, you see like, like I said, like the trash bags or whatever, like,
you're in that environment and you like it doesn't matter whether they spent five dollars making it or you know $1,000 buying it from somebody There it's it works like the practicalness I like it the only thing like I like I told David and whatever that I worry about is like some of the stuff They made like they made some I don't know different kind of objects with that foam stuff
And I'm just worried that in time with people like walking through and stuff, it's going to chip away. And that's again, they're learning. They don't know. But I mean, like they put all this time and stuff in making these awesome like they had like a tree and a mushroom and some other things. But they made it like I said, they made it in house and painted it and all that on their own. But I'm just I hope that it holds up.
you know, for the whole season. And I know that there are tricks and tips that you can do to like actually make it. So it will take a punch, like it, you know, what would you call that? Like they would code it.
David (52:46.426)
Yeah, harden the materials and whatnot so they can be picked at and that kind of thing.
Syd (52:51.009)
Yeah. But I mean, like I said, there's little downsides, but like, again, they made it though. That's the cool part is like they made a lot of stuff in house, you know, and they'll learn that, you know, because of actors and people going through and just like wear and tear, things are gonna, you know, and when it's made out of like material like that, like foam or things that are easy to, you know, get destroyed, obviously.
And I just hope in time it does and I hope like people that go through will respect the fact that you know some of the stuff's homemade. But I mean it's really cool how they've kind of like tied both worlds into one.
David (53:34.55)
Yeah, because I definitely don't mind seeing all the professional done animatronics or props or whatnot that you can get at all those great Halloween companies and what have you. But, you know, when you put your own creativity when you make these haunts, that's what really sells them, you know, versus other haunts that will just buy all the stuff from either older haunts or...
Syd (53:46.778)
Yeah.
Syd (54:00.801)
Yeah.
David (54:04.383)
whatnot and then they throw something together like okay there we go
Syd (54:07.929)
Well yeah, and like I said, you can kind of tell the difference between a haunt that really puts their whole heart into it, to a haunt that's just doing it for the profit. You can tell those differences, you know, like I said, because when you put your heart into it, it's kind of like an energy that comes with the experience. And Mill of Madness has that for sure.
And I love that they did a lot of stuff in-house and that it's... I mean, like I said, I don't want to give away, but there are practical effects that they have that have been done for years. And I was so happy when we walked through and saw those, because I was like, oh my gosh, they have whatever. Like, I was excited for that. Like, I was like, I can't believe they're bringing it back.
David (54:52.105)
Yeah
Syd (54:53.785)
Which, I mean, all of that stuff works. And it's just, to me, it's really cool the fact that they've put their own spin. Cause it's kind of like, um, Netherworld, they do buy stuff, but they always, like, somehow end up doing something to it to make it their own. And that's like, something that Mill of Madness is doing. It's like, even if they did buy something, and they kind of have their spin on how they're using it.
David (55:22.058)
Yeah, and that's the other part too, is like, I've gone through a lot of haunts too where, you know, how we've talked about the start of this haunt, you know, where there's like little scenes or what have you, and then you go through and you're actually, okay, so this is the main haunt, you know, you're going through the maze, you know, and then you walk out like, oh man, that was great, blah, you know, but no, this one, at the end of the maze, you're greeted by another actor, and,
Syd (55:38.779)
Mm-hmm.
David (55:51.83)
that takes you into their finale, which is just phenomenal.
Syd (55:55.189)
Yeah, I was gonna say you should if you want to talk about the second half of the whole haunt but like the ending I would love for you to share that so go ahead
David (56:05.154)
Oh, no problem. Uh, you know, like, like we've been saying, you know, about the haunt, uh, I'm not gonna say anything about the maze itself because you just have to experience it. Uh, all the actors, props, everything like that. It's just so well done. Uh, we have said stuff about, uh, an electrocution part, which to me was done amazingly well, uh, whatnot. And that's the end of the whole maze there.
before you're greeted by another actor going right into their finale. And it's just great because it goes from, uh, you know, it's I love B movies, you know, like, uh, they have the dead and stuff like that. And if you've seen that, you know, it's only starting off with the militaries, you know, doing something that they shouldn't be doing with, uh,
Syd (56:51.12)
Yeah.
David (57:01.446)
experimenting on whatever for a super soldier or whatever. And you know this is kind of has that kind of vibe to it because you start off military you know uh you're supposed to be reinforcements but you're actually civilians and it goes into uh laboratory and like in the same asylum type of a feel into uh you know like you're going just through a whole movie.
Syd (57:08.77)
Yeah.
David (57:29.278)
You know, all these different scenes and they just blend together like you're going outside into the woods going into grandma's house You know going off to her red carpet stuff like that, you know It's just you know, the way that they just transition everything is just well done
Syd (57:29.381)
Yeah.
Syd (57:39.906)
Yeah.
Syd (57:45.761)
Yeah, because they do have a whole forest part, which is, I think, pretty cool, and how they did it. And the creature that's in there, I mean, it's cool.
David (57:58.45)
Yes, and whoever the actor is just brings its life.
Syd (58:04.257)
Yeah, it's all about the actors like we said. But yeah, I would say as a whole the Haunt is a must see, for sure. So yeah, Mill of Madness, if it's not on your calendar or on your to-do list, you should for sure put it on there. It's a recommended Haunt. At least for sure by us.
David (58:22.142)
Yeah, and don't get dissuaded or whatnot when you're going there or whatnot because they are doing it in one of their studios. So it's located near Sky Harbor International Airport and whatnot. So, you know, they have to keep the regular hours on there. So you may have your GPS saying that it may be closed. Don't listen to it. Just keep going.
Syd (58:33.093)
Mm-hmm.
Syd (58:39.587)
Yeah.
Syd (58:50.989)
Yeah. That's true. When we went, I was like, this may be closed by the time you get there. And I'm like, I hope not. It's like, they're just opening. What are you talking about? Yeah, don't don't. She's a liar. But yeah, it is. I mean, that's like, I guess another downside is I've been hearing is like the location is kind of hard to follow or find. But I mean, it's what they have and they make it work. Yeah, I mean, they make it work. I mean,
David (58:51.574)
Check it out.
David (59:01.054)
Right? But that's the same business.
David (59:16.91)
How often do you get to go into a movie studio?
Syd (59:21.153)
It's in kind of like, what would you call it, like an industrial business-y area.
David (59:25.306)
It's a industrial business area or whatnot. So, but, you know, it's kind of like, I don't know if Las Vegas or Hollywood, uh, opens haunts in their movie studios or anything like that. You know, this place is a movie studio. It's a haunt, you know, or interactive, you know, uh, attraction, haunting. But no, you don't get that. This is a rare experience for anybody.
Syd (59:27.792)
Yeah.
Syd (59:38.373)
Yeah.
Syd (59:48.357)
Yeah.
Syd (59:52.949)
Yeah, and they make the location work. I mean, like, yes it is a little hard to find, but now they've added, like, banners and stuff. So, like, you obviously see it when you drive around, like, it's there.
I mean, like, me and you were talking, we wished that maybe they had, like, a giant monster or something, like one of those giant skeletons or something, just so it's, you know, like, oh yeah, obviously. I mean, if you don't know where it is and there's a giant skeleton, like, that's on you, like, I mean, come on. It's like, yeah. But I mean, like, you told me, they have restrictions, the fact that it is close to the airport. So there's some things they can't do, like the searchlights and all that, but they could, you know.
David (01:00:12.151)
Yeah.
David (01:00:20.653)
All right.
Syd (01:00:31.257)
get something like that outside. And I could see why they wouldn't want to necessarily because people may steal it or do things like that. So I could see why maybe they wouldn't want to. But I mean, I would say overall though, it's a safe location. So I think they'd be okay with doing something like that.
David (01:00:51.08)
Yes, definitely.
Syd (01:00:52.513)
And I mean, even if they don't have it this year, they could always have something like that next year.
David (01:00:57.274)
Like I said, it's their first year, you know, I mean, get them a shot, you know, it's something new compared to all the other haunts that have been around here for years. It's only good to check out something new every so often.
Syd (01:01:01.742)
Yeah.
Syd (01:01:06.916)
Yeah.
Yeah, like even if you have a tradition of going to one every year, like break it this one year and see something different or, you know, add it a part of your new traditions. Like give it a shot. Like David said, it's new. It's something different. It's a different experience in itself. So yeah, I would for sure say give it a shot if you can. Make sure you check it out.
It's like I said, there are things that they can improve on, but overall it's, it's a good haunt. And also if you go through and you do have, you know, you help improve it, you've made it better. Like you're a part of it too. If you go through and you notice something like, Hey, you should try this. Then you're also like a part of the history of that haunt. So yeah, for sure. Like check it out. Like I said, you can buy tickets at millofmadness.com and you can read the story. They do have the story and they have like information about it. Everything is pretty much on the.
website.
David (01:02:04.26)
Yeah, and like I said, it's just, it's a breath of fresh air because a lot of the haunts that we do have here in Arizona never change how their haunt looks year by year. So it's always good to have something brand new and fresh.
Syd (01:02:16.931)
Yeah.
Syd (01:02:20.405)
Yeah, for sure. Like, get your tickets, make sure you try it. Um, you can also like, like I said, for sure, give them reviews on Google.
Or you can even hashtag me with madness and be like, hey, I went and this is something I noticed, or I really liked it. Or like I said, you can even tag USA Haunt Search and tell us, or let us know what you think of the Haunt too. How did you like it? Because we can also share that with our Haunt friends too and tell them, hey, we heard this feedback. So you're a part of the experience too, for sure. Give feedback. Don't be one of those people who go through something and really like it, or really hate it, and don't tell them.
Like for sure, let them know.
David (01:02:59.21)
And if we like to, we'll definitely say it on our podcast.
Syd (01:03:02.901)
Oh yeah, oh yeah. Yeah, like, for sure, share what you think, because again, you're gonna see things differently than we do, and that's a good thing. Like, we don't want to brainwash people or to have people be like the same. But we just like to give reviews to let people know.
Cause like, I don't know about you, but I have a budget. So it's like, I try to go to the best attractions. Of course now it's different since now I review them. But before, like I reviewed haunts and stuff. I would have like a budget. So I maybe get to see one or two, you know, the whole season. So I would research because you don't want to spend your money on something that you've already seen or something that's just going to lead to disappointment. So that's why we try to help you kind of navigate that.
David (01:03:43.583)
Yeah.
Syd (01:03:49.125)
But we do want you to make your own mind up. So like I said, let us know what you thought too, for sure. But I would say, like I said, just to finish this podcast off, I would say yes, it is a must see, haunt, it's like I said, it's not just a haunt, it's an attraction, it's interactive. And like the owner calls it a show. And it is.
In that point, it's kind of like Rocky Point, if anyone knows about Rocky Point. She never referred to it as a haunted house. She always referred to it as a show because it was more than just a haunted attraction. And I think that's why I like of Mill of Madness 2 because it has that link that Rocky Point started, which is awesome when you carry on the history of something that was so...
David (01:04:30.804)
Yeah.
Syd (01:04:35.725)
Legendary and well-known and they might not even know that they have that link with rocky point, but I mean they do Which is cool Yeah, so any last things that you want to share about mill of madness before we wrap it up
David (01:04:43.53)
Yeah, it's a movie studio doing a haunt.
David (01:04:53.758)
Oh, like I said, Mill of Madness is definitely a must see. I guarantee you'll have a great time and it will fit your budget. It is affordable. It's not going to be the price of, you know, a Walt Disney ticket or, you know, front row seats at a concert or anything like that. You know, you can definitely have.
Syd (01:05:04.005)
Yeah.
Syd (01:05:15.816)
Yeah.
David (01:05:19.554)
Do it as a nice little date night or take your family to it. Bring your kids and whatnot. Because I've noticed that a lot of the actors pay attention to that. If they see kids or whatnot, they will still be scary and whatnot, but they pull back and try not to scare the little kids all too terribly much. So it's just great ones.
Syd (01:05:24.186)
Yeah.
Syd (01:05:30.51)
Yeah.
Syd (01:05:41.973)
Yeah, terrify them. Yeah. Which, and I love haunts that do that, because you know I hate when the haunts scare children. That's just an easy target and it's wrong. For lots of reasons. So, yeah, the fact that they stay in character and whatever, but they don't want to terrify your child to the point where they're never going to want to go through a haunt again. Which smart haunts will not do that, because again, that's future customers, but whatever.
David (01:05:52.61)
Yeah.
Syd (01:06:09.829)
There are aunts that do that. To me, it doesn't make sense, but whatever. So yeah, you could take your family through. Yes, there are parts that I would say are actually scary or terrifying, but again, it's more entertaining than anything.
David (01:06:10.127)
Right. And that's what you're looking for. I mean, you don't go and watch a horror movie just to get scared and scream or whatnot. You actually want to like the storyline.
Syd (01:06:37.185)
Yeah. Yeah, and that makes a difference, like we were saying. So for sure, check out Mill of Madness. Like I said, go to Mill of Madness dot com.
and the address, everything is there, anything, every question you have will be on the website. If there is something that you don't know or that there isn't, you can always probably reach out to them. They're very accommodating and also wheelchairs can go through the haunt too. I didn't say that, but they are, they're very accommodating to whatever you need. So for sure check it out. And that's another thing that makes this haunt special is that they actually accommodate for their customers. Like even their actors too.
David (01:07:17.418)
Yeah, it's hard to f**k that 80k.
Syd (01:07:17.644)
Like, they have handicapped people that work there.
Syd (01:07:22.881)
And that's sometimes odd, because some haunts will not hire you if you have any kind of disability, which to me again doesn't make sense. So they're accommodating.
Syd (01:07:34.905)
But yeah, I would say check them out, get their tickets, share this podcast. We're gonna have a lot more reviews coming up. We have a lot of reviews coming up. And I'll just name a couple. I don't wanna say when we're gonna be there because then sometimes people act differently. I wanna go and them not know necessarily. I mean, there is a couple of haunts, no. Yeah, we don't want special treatment necessarily. So yeah, some of the ones we're going through, we're going through...
David (01:07:53.173)
It's kind of like the secret operation kind of thing, that's how we try to approach it.
Syd (01:08:04.889)
the slaughterhouse. We already went through Milla Madness, obviously. We're gonna try to do Tear in the Corn.
We're going to go through Sanctum and 13th floor and Fear Farm. And also this is the first time ever that I'm going to go through Scarazona. So that will be fun. I've had a lot of people ask me about it and I've never given my opinion because I don't have one because I've never been to it. And I know David, it's your first time too. So for both of us, it's going to be our first time going through Scarazona.
David (01:08:31.775)
Yeah.
David (01:08:35.686)
And that's not all we're going to be doing this month of October 2. We're also going to be doing one of the newer conventions, horror conventions here in Arizona as well.
Syd (01:08:45.473)
Yeah. Yeah, Horror Fest. It's it was the first year, I think, last year, but this year it's already grown like I would say probably quadruple the size and they have like more stars and stuff. I would say it's going to be pretty interesting and they're bringing activities along with the convention. Like they have like trick or treating and like some things that you can do if the kids or whatnot. But they're also bringing the zombie walk back.
David (01:09:12.877)
So if you're interested in going, you may run into Sid and I there because we all have a booth there as well.
Syd (01:09:18.817)
Yeah, say hi. We'll be with United Zombies of America, but yeah, for sure. If you see us, say hi.
We would love that. If you have any comments or questions or anything, like, yeah, let us know too. And like I said, if you ever want to be on the show or if you want your haunt reviewed or anything like that, you have questions or ideas or anything like that, just email USA Haunt Search. I mean, email info at USAhauntSearch.com and let us know and we will work with you and see if we can get you on the show or have your ideas.
David (01:09:51.755)
Yeah, definitely.
Syd (01:09:52.749)
Yeah, or even if you want to sponsor or be a part, just let us know. So yeah, I think that's pretty much our episode is, yeah, our first review. This is our first review for this year and our first review on this podcast. So Mill of Madness, you're very lucky. You got to be the first of like three things. First podcast, first review of the year. And yeah, for sure. Like it's, that's pretty, I would say that's pretty special.
David (01:09:57.31)
Yeah. Thanks for listening.
David (01:10:12.512)
That's great.
David (01:10:20.51)
Yeah, definitely.
Syd (01:10:21.345)
So yeah, this is like our kickoff to all of our, all of our crazy October funness. So, and yeah, I would for sure follow us on Facebook and all of our social media too, cause we might be doing some live videos as well.
Yeah, and David will be a part of that too. So thank you, David, for your time and for telling us your honest opinion about Mill of Madness and we look forward to having you more on the podcast. I've wanted to have you. It's just been crazy with all the scheduling and stuff and learning even how to start a podcast. So this is, and also David's the first guest star. So like I said, this is kind of a, like a special episode. We have a lot of firsts going on.
David (01:10:39.848)
No problem.
David (01:10:52.556)
Yeah.
David (01:11:02.194)
Yeah. And I'm here to support Sid as well. Like, like you said, this is the first time she's done the whole podcast thing. But, you know, I'm here to help her out because I've done many podcasts.
Syd (01:11:14.157)
Yeah. Yeah, I have, I have a lot of supporters, but David for sure is one of them. And I would give a shout out to Adam too, for helping me. I wish he was more involved this season, but I understand why he's not, but we miss him. But yeah, that's pretty much our episode in a nutshell. And like I said, we had David Reed who joined us and told us his point of view and the reviews and stuff. And.
David (01:11:31.182)
Definitely.
Syd (01:11:42.609)
Like I said, this is the first of many, so just make sure you follow and stay tuned to our podcast and what we're doing. And yeah, and all the events that are coming up, it's going to be a really busy October.
David (01:11:55.561)
Definitely will be
Syd (01:11:56.737)
Oh yeah, oh yeah. And see, another thing I know a lot of people have been telling me about this podcast is they like it, the fact that it's like laid back and it's more like we're talking to you, you know, like, it's more of like a laid back, like you're a part of the conversation than just somebody talking. So thank you for that feedback. And I was hoping it'd be more like us talking to a friend than just talking on a podcast. So that's good. So yeah, I would say thank you very much for listening. And thank you, David, again, for being a part of it.
David (01:12:19.409)
Yep.
David (01:12:26.68)
No problem.
Syd (01:12:26.751)
I appreciate it. And like I said, I look forward to working with you more and doing more. So stay tuned. So thank you, David. All right. Well, thank you guys. Until next time, happy Halloween.
David (01:12:35.undefined)
Thank you.
David (01:12:39.646)
Bye.